Hmm… I'm beginning to get the knack of pushing
the hotter buttons. Yesterday's posting on
a blog from Friday by a fellow named TrulyEqual garnered me a
couple comments (including from that author); I'm moving them – and my
responses – to today's posting. Take it away, TE:
Hey, thanks
for linking to my blog. Here's my response. Afraid you're not gonna like it!
—–
"Supposed
to love everyone Cardinal. Ever heard of the 10 Commandments?"
You haven't
heard of them. Nothing about love in them.
I was brought up in a
Catholic school, kinder to high school, and in catholic catechism we were
taught that the first commandment is "you should love god above
everything". But according to Matthew2:37-39:
Jesus
said to him, "You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with
all your soul, and with all your mind." 38 This is the first and great
commandment. 39 And the second is like it: "You shall love your neighbor
as yourself." 40 On these two commandments hang all the Law and the
Prophets."
That is taught to
little kids around here, at least in Spanish… the 10 Commandments down to their
irreducible essence. I thought "thou shall not lie" applied here, but
the guy really believes what he is saying, even if he is nuts.
By saying, "yeah,
the Antichrist will be a pacifist, an ecologist" you know he is not
showing love to certain folks. He means it with a certain elitist disdain.
Forget the philosophical argument, we got the message Cardinal.
So guess what? I also
read the Bible and therefore am qualified to make such comments. The counter-argument
"are you really qualified to make such statements?" is a snide
insult, as in "if you were a real, God-fearing Christian you would
watch your mouth." It's a smear disguised as a critique. I'm already
highly educated so it's not like I can't parse a couple of thoughtful sentences
together. Just because I called the guy what he is - a conservative idiot -
doesn't mean I'm emotional and not rational.
I personally like and
believe in liberation theology, but some in the U.S. believe in Christianity a
la James Dobson or Jerry Falwell: we're right, they're wrong, screw
everyone else, they're going to hell anyway, and we will be saved.
My main point is that
religion in general can be used either as a bridge or as a wedge, i.e., we can
form bonds even if we disagree on certain things, or create division by saying,
"hey, if you don't believe what I just said, then you're not a real
Christian and I know you don't want to be left out, right?"
This guy is using it as
a wedge. If you want to form a bond with me, that's not the way to start, with
his dumbass comments. I rather teach my children "love everyone like you
love thyself and learn to forgive" than "remember the Sabbath",
because with loving God and others, you're covered. You're not going to kill or
lie or cheat if you respect yourself and others. But people seem to forget
that… they pick and choose a part of the Bible that is more sensationalistic,
like the book of Revelations and the apocalypse, or the Antichrist, but forget
about the simple, beautiful lessons that tra[n]scend cultures. I was
taught "amar a Dios sobre todas las cosas y al projimo como a ti
mismo", which translates into "love God above all things and
others like you love yourself". Go ahead and tell me that by following
that you're not a good Christian. You will be. You can believe the other stuff
if you want to. Basics, basics, basics.
If they guy wants to
use religion as a wedge, well, I got his wedge right here.
—–
He quickly followed
that with this one:
—–
Ooops, that above
comment was a response to all the comments in my thread, not just yours, but
hey, we do what we can.
I responded:
First, to
brother TrulyEqual:
Nothing unlikable
in your response. You and I are on roughly parallel tracks, though not precisely
an identical path. Thus we see, at times, somewhat different things when
looking out our windows. (This is where it helps to compare views with fellow
travelers, in the hope of getting a better picture.)
Christianity
came along with the dawn of a new era (pardon honey-sweet cliché), christening
(pardon the pun, too) the present era with a focus on love, compassion, and
mercy (which are also foreshadowed in the OT). My intuition suggests that may
mean we are to put a heavier weight on what Jesus taught than on what God's
finger carved into Moses' tablets.
NB, though:
Jesus explained he'd come not to tear down Judaism, but to fulfill it (you'll
note that in death he served as the ultimate scapegoat, in function bridging
humanity and divinity). So covenants made between God and humanity (e.g., with
Abra(ha)m, Moses, etc.) still stand.
Much of OT
Judaism was rough and brutal (eye for an eye, etc. — lots of blood and
slaughter), but so were the times. Thus rules for living had to be on those
terms first, until we were capable of a moral evolution beyond blood sacrifice,
and the slaying of our enemies. (Note how, by the first century CE, Judaism
dropped temple-sacrifices.)
Biffi does
come across as a "conservative idiot". But it's quite possible that
this is how he was quoted; it's not above any media channel — secular or
ecclesial — to slant information to fit the readers they wish to reach, or the
editors they have.
You and I
both favor religion-as-bridge, versus as wedge (PS re your last line: LOL!).
Mother Angelica: "The essence of evangelization is to tell everybody,
‘Jesus loves you!'"
But note
also that Jesus himself says "Do not think that I have come
to bring peace upon the earth. I have come to bring not peace but the sword.
For I have come to set a man ‘against his father, a daughter against her
mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and one's enemies will
be those of his household'."
So even love
can be divisive.
Agree also
re folks (mostly, but not entirely) on the Protestant side of the road who
build houses of intolerance and hatred on their "interpretation" of
the Bible. This I feel is one of Luther's lasting legacies that grievously
afflict all of Christianity: sola scriptura — i.e.,
that I can read the Bible and interpret and understand it all by myself and on
my lonesome.
Thus hypocritical
televangelists with wads of money and open tabs at the whorehouse down the
road. Thus cowards in sheets and white hoods, burning crosses and lynching our
brothers of color. Thus the flow of blood and poisoned Kool-Aid and the smell
of bombed and burning buildings at the hands of devils convinced they are all
following the Word of God.
Indeed it's
possible that Biffi was speaking from a similar down-the-nose worldview. But I
wasn't there on the Vatican retreat to hear him, and I assume you, my friend,
weren't there either. So we don't know what was actually said, and we certainly
don't know on our own where Biffi stands — realizing this, is what led me to
withdraw my smart-aleck complaint toward the end of my posting.
Re the
Antichrist, though — he may be onto something. Think the "Pied
Piper", playing a tune everyone will want to hear; and so we all march out
like lemmings behind him. The Antichrist may be one man, or may be an actual
movement; we don't know. But we can be on guard against calls to act
without thinking; and as Christians, against calls to abandon Jesus's message
of love.
Turning the
other cheek does not mean mooning one's enemies.
Take care,
Truly Equal — and keep pricking the balloon-egos of the demagogs where you find
them!
—–
Next came a rather
vague comment that, the more I thought on it, became increasingly troubling.
It's from someone with a nom de Net "Amalekite":
Zionism (of
the Judaizer) is the force that seeks to be higher then the most high. The
zionist is he who seeks a pervese dual-covenant with god. Zionism is god, and
god is zionism: the jewish people are their own Messiah, "Israel is our
best friend", believed by the likes of our President and Pat Robertson.The
anti-christ is identified, no further speculation or numerology required, it
should be obvious to any Christian that these Zionists are our Satanic Agent
Provocateurs.
I gave him the
consideration of a response also:
Now, on to
our Amalekite:
Uh,
yeeeeessss…
So… Zionism isn't
that current in Judaism, at one time to refound (and now to maintain) a Jewish
state where it had historically stood?
The Jews
still seek their Messiah, not out of Zionism itself, but as a fulfillment of
the ancient faith-tradition. This they were promised from the beginning of
their long history.
God's
covenants with us (see Noah, Abram, Moses, and others) were of a
dual nature, that God was holding Himself obligated to that covenant's
fulfillment; nothing perverse to this — but rather a manifestation of His great
love for us, His wayward and short-sighted children.
I'm no fan
of Robertson or George Jr. Yet the Jews still are our elder kindred in faith
and culture (shoot; I have some in my family, for that matter; they're
awesome), and for the past few centuries (aside from disturbing anti-Semitic
movements) we've stood arm-in-arm.
They can be
a great force for good and resolution of conflict in the Middle East and around
the world… except that they've been sitting on the bullseye and in the
crosshairs for just about sixty years now.
Or would you
rather encourage Ahmadinejad and his friends? Too much innocent blood has been
spilled in the name of intolerance.
According to
Britannica, the Amalekites were "described in the Old
Testament as relentless enemies of Israel". To be honest, this disturbs me
— and also compels me to point out to you that the Amalekites don't exist
anymore (see the first book each of Samuel and Chronicles… their end
was not pretty), but our Jewish/Israeli cousins remain. Babylon fell, Athens
fell, Rome fell, the Nazis fell… personally, I'd hate to embrace the moniker of
"enemy of Israel" — the track record is rather, ah, discouraging.
Perhaps (and
this is only a guess) you are one of my Muslim cousins. If so, it would seem to
me that you are not heeding the words of Allah and the Prophet. Most of the
books/chapters of the Qur'an consistently begin with "in the name of Allah
the compassionate and merciful"… yet what sense I can make of
your words seems to be lacking in mercy and compassion. This
would suggest in turn that perhaps you consider yourself wiser than Allah. (I
must be wrong; THAT would be a perversion!)
If you are a
Muslim, remember that the word means that you surrender (islam) to will of
Allah; and within the word "islam"/surrender is the word (a)salam:
peace.
The Muslims are younger cousins to
the Jews and Christians — and, like their older cousins, need at times to
meditate on what the will of God/Allah is, to which they are called to
surrender. Remember that Ishmael lived a long, long
time ago, and there is no longer any need for that ancient grievance. Peace,
mercy, compassion, my cousin. Inshallah.
TrulyEqual responded to the above, and I answered him the next day:
ReplyDeletetruly.equal Mar 4, 2007
I'm gonna give you one tip, and a comment as well.
The idea is to be controversial and thoughtful at the same time. The title of my posting is controversial, but the points I made – even with the cursing and name-calling – are rather solid. I called the guy a conservative idiot – what he is – but also commented on the nature of Christianity and the hypocrisy of some people who claim to be "Christians".
It ain't that hard…
AgingChildMar 5, 2007
Heh-heh; thanks, TE. You and I function under somewhat different modi operandibus; I don't seek controversy, and try not to stir it up. I'll back off even — but, like you, I don't back *down*: e.g., when you have a moment, check my postings on 2/6 (and 2/3), and 2/13.
For me, it's enough to have a few boneheaded friends (and a relative or two), and an honest enough self-sense to see my own occasional boneheadedness. There's the source of a lot of fodder, brudder.
My blog's objectives, such as they are, could maybe be listed as:
(1) Making use of an opportunity to write, write, write — improve the craft until it's marketable;
(2) Share a few insights that some folks might be interested in, from the absurd to the sublime;
(3) Share also various discoveries and learnings (primarily in religion, language, history, and some of the sciences);
(4) Occasionally step up onto the soapbox as a Democratic Howard Jarvis who's also "mad as hell and not going to take it anymore";
(5) Invite folks to accompany me (albeit vicariously… pardon possible pun) as I work through vocational discernment into the Catholic priesthood or professed religious community – on the way dispelling absurdities too many folks (even within the Church) hold to regarding Catholicism; and
(6) Other stuff that might interest, intrigue, or otherwise engage me en route; I can't be the only one so captivated at random.
But controversy? Naah; I might dig it up and put it on shameful display, but I'm not out to make my own. That I'll leave to the pros, like you and quite a few others out there. Have at it, my friend — I'll cheer you on, thumb my nose along with you (and I *said* "thumb"; THAT's not a thumb, wise guy!), but keep more in the background behind the other spectators.
For it's back here I can find some things other folks are ignoring, or take a nap or make a face unnoticed, or even pick the occasional pocket, should it suit me.
Ciao bello!